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Adding abilities to trait comparisons

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Marc (Admin):
Ditto


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--- Quote from: Kiara on March 18, 2016, 09:46:43 AM ---I like this because it adds flavor and depth to a game in a way more of things dont really work.

I dislike it because it makes it harder for STs to calculate when running combats on the fly especially if they don't have sheets necessarily prepped. I also dislike it because it puts a larger gap between old and new players. Not only does that new cliath have less traits and less gifts but now they are calling even smaller comparative things in a challenge with a long running character.

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These are my opinions precisely.  I like the detail this adds, but I feel like the slowdown involved in extra math might make it not worthwhile.

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Seven Mountains:
IMO adding additional traits to the total is only a pain for math, obviously more so for NPC's for Narrators etc. On the PC side it only truly matters when overbids come into play as a PC which already outmatches another PC will not "more outmatch" a PC. you still win on RPS 1/3 or the time, you still retest abilities the same.

Trait totals would be equal most of the time for similar characters, most people forget their form traits, or their weapon traits, or bonus traits for talens, or traits for a pack tactic, or traits for a totem, or traits for a gift, or traits for cover, or traits for minor rites, or traits for blah blah blah... so in the end +3-5 traits against an untrained combatant really doesn't throw off a curve for anyone other than those people who care about the minutiae and are looking to stay on the top bleeding edge of traits.

Those folks are in this game based on my experience the very very few of which I am one and know of very few others. Besides, anything which encourages people to remember to bid negative traits against people to get them to lose traits faster out of necessity I am all for...

Kiara:
You know Vance...I know you are saying this thing and you might actually believe it but I totally watched the Math involved with Torvold for years and I call BS.

Seven Mountains:
Torvald just had a ridiculous number of armor levels and I almost never lost at RPS. Check your memories ;)

Also, I never forget about a single trait, I remember every bonus when playing an Ahroun thrown against insurmountable odds in a game designed to kill me at every turn when I have to stare down Green Dragon with nothing but a a wonderful pack, a Fetish Axe and my swinging cod;)

And there were PC's in Hidden Flame and RAtC that could have killed Torvald in the snap of a finger in 2-3 rounds and there was nothing I could have done about it. The bonus 3-5 traits wouldn't have changed that.

Now I play a Ragabash who is very squishy and still believe what I said.

I still almost never lose at RPS.

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