Okay, here is a quick overview of the scene from Hidden Flame
There was this bane of sorrow stuck in this hole in the umbra that was trying to cause the garou in the scene to suffer depression. The Fenrir pack shows up to see my character near the hole where this bane was trying to come out and attack Wapi Tala, Vihtori and Alexander. Torvald comes into the scene and said this.
" Is Wapi Tala using a gun? " As Wapi Tala hits accurately into the bane a each time he fires the gun into the hole.