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Offline Alexander Amarandus van Bokkelen

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Hand Blade
« on: May 25, 2009, 11:44:22 AM »
The text for Hand Blade (SFTB) says "use the statistics for a klaive if in doubt."

I am in doubt.

What are the statistics for a klaive?  More relevantly, what are the statistics for the "weapon" gained from this gift?
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Re: Hand Blade
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2009, 03:46:59 PM »
Dan would be a good reference for this. I remember Tarl having this Gift.
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Offline Alexander Amarandus van Bokkelen

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Re: Hand Blade
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2009, 06:34:37 PM »
Ok, so...  LotW:

"A klaive gives three bonus traits in combat and inflicts an extra level of aggravated damage. Because it’s silver, werewolves cannot soak this damage."

Does this mean it deals 1+1=2 because it's a tiny knife that only deals one to begin with?  Or does it deal 2+1=3 because it's a klaive that gives 3 bonus traits, and tiny knives don't give 3 bonus traits?
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Offline Alexander Amarandus van Bokkelen

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Re: Hand Blade
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2009, 09:02:51 PM »
Two, or three?
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Re: Hand Blade
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2009, 10:27:19 PM »
*Shakes his Magic 8Ball*

No, just kidding, the answer is: 3
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Offline Alexander Amarandus van Bokkelen

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Re: Hand Blade
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2009, 10:28:05 PM »
Thanks.  (Hooray!  The melee fighter will be worthwhile during the Leviathan fight after all!)
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Offline PEBE

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Re: Hand Blade
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2009, 10:36:36 PM »
Well, I looked at the Dagger-Klave I have for Pebe. Since it originated with another game, I've never questioned it's stats.. that and klaves (not grand ones) all have the same traits/damage no matter the size because of the war spirit bound inside.
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Offline Alexander Amarandus van Bokkelen

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Re: Hand Blade
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2009, 10:39:12 PM »
Yep.  But the gift text isn't terribly clear other than saying "use the statistics for a klaive if in doubt" and "including dealing aggravated damage as the Garou’s claws are part of the weapon," so I thought I'd check.

I look forward to damaging a certain Leviathan with this gift in the very near future.
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Re: Hand Blade
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2009, 12:00:13 AM »
Nod, I'll put it as something to look into a simple house rule for the gift's use
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Re: Hand Blade
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2009, 02:37:28 PM »
A good rule of thumb is that a Klaive is based on a shortsword, and a Grand Klaive is based on a Long Sword. 
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